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5013883 No.5013883 [Reply] [Original]

I'm stuck. I'll post some of my most recent things, and I need people to tell me how I can improve. Not "just practice" but specific things. Tear me apart.

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Quoted By: >>5014152

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Quoted By: >>5014152 >>5014184

I'm interested in colored paintings, but I've been sticking strictly to values.

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Don't ask about this ones filename.

>> No.5013904
Quoted By: >>5013951

imo seems like you dont have a very good idea of the forms of the things yr trying to depict, and as a result the shapes become muddy and all your edges get blurred into one another and it doesn't really communicate what is actually there. I'd focus on any resource about construction, and once you're comfortable with that, anatomy. also be more patient a big part of the mess feels like laziness

>> No.5013951
Quoted By: >>5013975

So would I do volume and shading studies of 3d renders and of photographed models?

>> No.5013975
Quoted By: >>5014034 >>5014240

Do lots of 5-10 minute figure drawings. Go with Vilppu's way of studying by drawing the figure first with only spherical forms, then with box forms, then with cylinders. Constantly draw-through your forms and run cross contours over your forms. Yes, these drawing cues help, just like lifting cues for bodybuilding helps.

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Quoted By: >>5014106 >>5014152

Like this?

>> No.5014106
Quoted By: >>5014114

Yeah, but make an effort to be more precise with it.

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Quoted By: >>5014152

Aight. I hope this thread stays up so other stuff gets picked apart too.

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Quoted By: >>5014144

>I want very specific critique, but I will say nothing specific about my generic art

>> No.5014144
Quoted By: >>5014172

How can I improve on the genericism of my art? Personally I think I focused too hard on anatomy and lost a lot in terms of gesture and "life", but this board has people who know better than me.

>> No.5014152
Quoted By: >>5014240

Where's da color
Where's da clean line art
>Thbbt i dont wanna color
Go out of your comfort zone

>> No.5014172
Quoted By: >>5014183

>How can I improve on the genericism of my art?
Let me just finish recharging my crystal ball where I keep all information about your likes and dislikes, art goals and whatnot.

>> No.5014183
Quoted By: >>5014298

Fair enough. What gets me going is visceral stuff. Horror, rage, combat, you get the picture. How do I incorporate it better?

>> No.5014184

>I'm interested in colored paintings, but I've been sticking strictly to values.
There's really no reason to do greyscale only once you have the basic bearings of it down.
The problems with your work are all pretty straightforward and fundamental. To take >>5013890 for example, it's clealy unfinished for one. The perspective is also confusing. The eyes on the girl's face are crooked, her neck is short, and the fingers are oddly short, lack joints, and are holding the cards in an unnatural way. The rendering is overall very muddy. I'd do a paintover but that would frankly entail redrawing the whole piece, which wouldn't be great help to you imo.
If you can I'd reccomending find a non-anonymous community of artists you respect with skills of your level/above (the las discord is pretty good if you can get into it) and make a habit of asking them for critiques for every piece you do. That will help give you a comprehensive idea of what you should be working on over time, moreso than me just spewing "study fundies" at you in this post, since that's honestly what you need.

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Quoted By: >>5014252

Just drew this up in 20-odd minutes, a pretty standard dude and pose. Took the advice of using the figure drawing, actually cleaning up the lineart and using colors.

>> No.5014252
Quoted By: >>5014259

Lacks proper line weight variety and any kind of form rendering.

>> No.5014256

Type 1 or 2?

>> No.5014259
Quoted By: >>5014263

How 2 line weight

>> No.5014263
Quoted By: >>5014288

Google it. No wonder you think you plateaud. You're just lazy.

>> No.5014266

Not bad for a beglet

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Quoted By: >>5014301 >>5014304

Googled it.

>> No.5014298

Draw supernatural war. With soldiers and monsters on all sides of the conflict, bombs falling on everyone, tanks and giants turning people into paste, ghosts and demons bursting out of their victims, holy knights cutting through swathes of the enemies. Let the rivers run red.

>> No.5014301

Yeah, better, but now you need to practice it and find what style you actually want to use.

>> No.5014304
Quoted By: >>5014315

Use darker values and more hard edges
Now go make art you want to make instead of looking for headpats

>> No.5014315
Quoted By: >>5014374

This is actually my first time using a public forum for critique. A bit more harsh than I'd have liked it to been, but it's 4chan so what did I expect. It's been helpful overall.

>> No.5014374

4chan is best place to start
Completely anon and everyone is shitposting anyway so don't take it too seriously other than what is actually helpful
When you start getting good, move to deviant art and then when you're ready for the big leagues, make a reddit account
Good luck on your journey

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Using the advice given, I redrew >>5013885

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Quoted By: >>5015039 >>5015310

why does my anatomy feel like pieces of meat with no connection? should i go back to bone structure? or just have fun with back poses and apply until it sticks, answer most likely is both

>> No.5015010

You know the fundamentals, but you lack mastery in every one of them fundies

>> No.5015011
Quoted By: >>5015041

>digital smear crap
into the recycle bin it goes

>> No.5015039

Put skin on it and make the lines showing muscle tone more subtle.

>> No.5015041

I was going for something more painterly, is Marco Bucci a meme?

>> No.5015310

Bueno lo que pasa hombre es que ayyyy caramba andale andale ayyayayya ayy lmao

(sorry, I saw spanish in your pic and freaked out)

>> No.5016351
Quoted By: >>5016364 >>5016516

Which fundies should I master first? Form? Gesture? Perspective? Shapes?

>> No.5016364


>> No.5016516

Form and perspective are the same thing, practice drawing forms in perspective grids. Perspective is the most important Fundy because all other fundies require it.

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